Originally published Monday, July 21, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Brier Dudley
Lattes a luxury for startups
I thought I was the cheapskate, until I saw how Seattle startups are trying to save money nowadays. They're getting especially creative...
![]() |
Seattle Times staff columnist
I thought I was the cheapskate, until I saw how Seattle startups are trying to save money nowadays.
They're getting especially creative when it comes to coffee, the fuel that powers a lot of software development around here.
Some are buying their own espresso machines; others are cadging free coffee. One consultant has resorted to diluting her morning cup in a water bottle so it lasts all day.
The question is whether these are desperate moves by companies on the edge, or evidence of creativity and innovation that will help them survive the downturn.
Everyone's feeling the squeeze. Google's watching its capital expenses, and Nathan Kaiser's switching from $4 lattes to drip coffee — or water.
Kaiser, founder of Seattle recruiting and networking venture nPost, started the conversation last week. On his blog and an e-mail list for Seattle startups, he noted that gas is getting expensive, but his fancy coffee is running $36 per gallon.
"Many meetings happen in coffee shops, where a typical coffee costs $4. Times that by 2-3 meetings per day, 5 days a week, 4 weeks a month, you get the idea," he wrote, asking fellow entrepreneurs to share ideas on how they're cutting costs.
Kaiser said he's saving money by using free, online productivity tools; haggling with insurance and phone companies; and lowering Web hosting costs.
But people perked up when he raised the coffee question. Kaiser's tip for people facing the daily grind of coffee-shop meetings:
"Drink water. Don't get a cup of coffee. If you must, get a drip coffee or even a hot or iced tea. Save 100% to 50% off the cost of a latte."
Geeky java enthusiasts in the startup community chimed in.
Brian Myers, vice chairman of the MIT Enterprise Forum of the Northwest, suggested buying an espresso machine — even though his return-on-investment calculations suggest home-brewed drinks cost around $30 per gallon.
![]()
"But looking at it another way, a cappuccino is about $0.50 for coffee plus about a nickel for the milk, versus $3 at my favorite cafe," he wrote. "A couple a day and after a year an espresso machine looks like it has an ROI that will beat most startups."
Another suggested buying a bag of nice coffee beans for the office, then refilling it with cheaper beans from a place like Trader Joe's.
Startup veteran Mark Maunder contributed several good tips.
One was to have a chief financial officer who carefully reviews expenses. He was recently going to buy a new server, but his CFO suggested he first inventory the existing servers and their capacity. During that process, he found a $3,500 machine sitting idle, saving him the cost of a new one.
Maunder figured that his 50-milliliter espresso shots at Umbria have been running $304 per gallon, including tips. He suggested that people try sweet-talking the manager of Peet's in Redmond, where he's been able to get quarter-pound sample bags of the store's best coffees free.
"Just send a new employee each time," he joked.
At stealthy Seattle startup Fridge Door, an Aerobie coffee press has easily paid for itself, and "we can all tell the difference between coffee with 'crisp cup character' and 'brooding fruited notes,' " co-founder Logan Bowers wrote.
If you just want a cheap jolt, consider this tip from corporate-efficiency consultant Marina Martin.
She switched to an iced espresso concoction — a blend of 8 ounces of brewed coffee, poured into an ice-filled Nalgene bottle that's topped off with water.
"A lot of people pour six or more cups of coffee throughout the day and don't even drink a third of that ... but the hot coffee is initially too hot to drink, and then it's tepid and gross, so the remaining liquid is a waste," she wrote.
"The iced espresso stays cold all day, so you can sip as you go along and get a nice even level of caffeination. This costs me about 23 cents each day for the equivalent of two iced venti Americanos at Starbucks."
Martin added that "it's somewhat of an acquired taste."
I preferred some of her other suggestions, like making sure you don't go overboard cutting expenses.
"It's all about creative solutions and figuring out what can give and what can't (or shouldn't) give," she wrote. "You do not want to buy the cheap toilet paper."
Unless you're down to Folgers.
Brier Dudley's column appears Mondays. Reach him at 206-515-5687 or bdudley@seattletimes.com.
Copyright © 2008 The Seattle Times Company
bdudley@seattletimes.com | 206-515-5687
UPDATE - 07:03 AM
Bernanke outlines plan for pulling in stimulus aid
UPDATE - 06:37 AM
AP sources: FAA eyes hefty fines for American
UPDATE - 06:42 AM
New York Times profit triples, helped by cost cuts
UPDATE - 06:50 AM
Stocks in narrow range in early trading
UPDATE - 06:30 AM
Trade deficit jumps sharply in December

nwautos
Associated Press Study: Fatal crashes down in Washington Last year Washington's roads were the scene of the fewest fatal crashes since 1955. According...
Post a comment
nwjobs
Post a comment
Michelle Goodman blogs about work/life balance.
Five reasons to stick with a job you hate -- for now
Post a comment
- Alaska Air dropping Jones Soda beverages, going back to Coca-Cola
- Man found shot dead in pickup truck in Seattle
- Seattle is first U.S. stop for Picasso exhibit
- Husky Football Blog | Pac-10 expansion to get consideration over next year
- State Senate votes to clear way for tax increases
- Idol Confessions | "American Idol" hopeful from Seattle didn't make it to Hollywood afterall
- Phil Harris, 53, of 'Deadliest Catch,' dies
- Teen is beaten in bus tunnel; Metro to review policies
- Belltown boulevard could be completed by early next year
- Nicole Brodeur | Chrisceda Clemmons' house wasn't the only casualty
- Republicans may be no-shows at health-plan summit
279 - State Senate votes to clear way for tax increases
263 - Pac-10 expansion to get consideration over next year
250 - Lee undergoes foot surgery
233 - Obama: GOP and Dems together can spur job growth
213 - Fort Lewis soldier charged with abusing 4-year-old, holding her head in water
194 - Bus-tunnel attack while guards watched prompts review of Metro security
174 - Rivals names Martin one of Pac-10's best recruiters
143 - Belltown boulevard could be completed by early next year
129 - White House mocks Sarah Palin from podium
102
- Seattle is first U.S. stop for Picasso exhibit
- Belltown boulevard could be completed by early next year
- 747-8 soars smoothly on first outing
- Wine Adviser | Oregon's quality pinots join the bargain ranks
- Alaska Air dropping Jones Soda beverages, going back to Coca-Cola
- Phil Harris, 53, of 'Deadliest Catch,' dies
- How clean are those pre-washed salad greens?
- Snap out of your photo funk: How to make sense of all those piles of images
- Answers to biggest Olympic TV questions
- Brier Dudley's Blog | Google rolls its own Facebook & Twitter with Gmail "Buzz"






